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#51
Canalplan Site issues / New waterway - broken state
Last post by Stephen Atty - Nov 15, 2024, 04:53 PMCan you raise this in the bug tracker.
Nick is aware as we got a swarm of error emails
He's already raised a related bug
https://canalplan.org.uk/bugtrack/view.php?id=1272
Nick is aware as we got a swarm of error emails
He's already raised a related bug
https://canalplan.org.uk/bugtrack/view.php?id=1272
#52
Canalplan Site issues / New waterway - broken state
Last post by FLHerne - Nov 15, 2024, 12:19 PMLast night I added \"River Weaver (Hunt's Lock Back Channel)\", but I got a couple of site errors when submitting actions and the resulting entries don't display correctly.
The waterway:
Appears on the map with some places not shown.
Page renders, but its line diagram is missing some 'places'.
https://canalplan.org.uk/waterway/prdf
Places on it:
Hunt's Lock Weir Entrance:
Pre-existing 'place', junction with the River Weaver (Main Line)
Appears on main map and the line diagrams for both waterways.
Page renders, but shows nothing relating to the Back Channel - no 'junction with' or line diagram for it.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ta2v
Riversdale Swing Bridge
Appears on main map but not on waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/lu2r
Northwich Drydock
Appears on main map and waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ln9m
Northwich Railway Viaduct (Back Channel)
Doesn't appear on either map or line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ntdq
Hunt's Lock Sluices
Appears on main map and waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/li7k
I initially added Northwich Drydock as the new isolated 'place' to create the waterway to, then added Hunt's Lock Sluices using 'Add a place beyond...'. My impression was that this was when things started going badly wrong.
[after=15041]
Since the above post, the place pages have begun rendering but are missing a lot of content; all information/maps relating to the waterway is missing.
The waterway:
Appears on the map with some places not shown.
Page renders, but its line diagram is missing some 'places'.
https://canalplan.org.uk/waterway/prdf
Places on it:
Hunt's Lock Weir Entrance:
Pre-existing 'place', junction with the River Weaver (Main Line)
Appears on main map and the line diagrams for both waterways.
Page renders, but shows nothing relating to the Back Channel - no 'junction with' or line diagram for it.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ta2v
Riversdale Swing Bridge
Appears on main map but not on waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/lu2r
Northwich Drydock
Appears on main map and waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ln9m
Northwich Railway Viaduct (Back Channel)
Doesn't appear on either map or line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/ntdq
Hunt's Lock Sluices
Appears on main map and waterway line diagram, page doesn't render.
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/li7k
I initially added Northwich Drydock as the new isolated 'place' to create the waterway to, then added Hunt's Lock Sluices using 'Add a place beyond...'. My impression was that this was when things started going badly wrong.
[after=15041]
Since the above post, the place pages have begun rendering but are missing a lot of content; all information/maps relating to the waterway is missing.
#53
Canalplan Site issues / Route map direction mismatch
Last post by FLHerne - Nov 14, 2024, 10:34 PM(in hindsight I clearly should have filed this under 'Places')
I clearly didn't explain sufficiently.
The up/down direction of the lock is correct and consistent.
The problem is that it's the boundary between two waterways which both use it as the first 'place' rather than running first->last in the same direction. That leads to it appearing in the diagram twice, non-adjacent, with the same direction in screen-space representing opposite directions in the real world. This is confusing to the viewer and looks daft.
Compare the identical situation at Horseway Lock, where the directions match and so the diagrams fit together much better:
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/6cdt
I think I need to either reverse the 'first place'<->'last place' direction of Frodsham Cut, ideally without deleting and re-entering the whole thing, or perhaps use some magic flag to alter the diagram rendering.
Quote from: StephenAttyYou should just be able to edit the waterway and there is an option about which way the first lock goes.
I clearly didn't explain sufficiently.
The up/down direction of the lock is correct and consistent.
The problem is that it's the boundary between two waterways which both use it as the first 'place' rather than running first->last in the same direction. That leads to it appearing in the diagram twice, non-adjacent, with the same direction in screen-space representing opposite directions in the real world. This is confusing to the viewer and looks daft.
Compare the identical situation at Horseway Lock, where the directions match and so the diagrams fit together much better:
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/6cdt
I think I need to either reverse the 'first place'<->'last place' direction of Frodsham Cut, ideally without deleting and re-entering the whole thing, or perhaps use some magic flag to alter the diagram rendering.
#54
Canalplan Site issues / Route map direction mismatch
Last post by Stephen Atty - Nov 14, 2024, 06:52 PMYou should just be able to edit the waterway and there is an option about which way the first lock goes.
#55
Places / Forty Foot River
Last post by FLHerne - Nov 14, 2024, 05:27 PMI have altered the map to reflect the status quo:
40 Foot Drain drain split into two sections:
- navigable from the Old River Nene to Horseway Lock, made routeable.
- unnavigable from Horseway Lock to Welches Dam Lock (inclusive), still unrouteable
Old Bedford River and Counter Drain marked as unroutable. A few boats have battled their way up there (although the last time I'm aware of was 2018) but it's not at all usable for ordinary/sane boaters.
40 Foot Drain drain split into two sections:
- navigable from the Old River Nene to Horseway Lock, made routeable.
- unnavigable from Horseway Lock to Welches Dam Lock (inclusive), still unrouteable
Old Bedford River and Counter Drain marked as unroutable. A few boats have battled their way up there (although the last time I'm aware of was 2018) but it's not at all usable for ordinary/sane boaters.
#56
Canalplan Site issues / Route map direction mismatch
Last post by FLHerne - Nov 14, 2024, 03:49 PMI added 'new' waterways River Weaver (Frodsham Cut) and River Weaver (Old River), previously unmapped, which meet at Frodsham Lock:
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/lu0o
Unfortunately I chose the directions arbitrarily, and the mismatch causes the Tube-style route map at Frodsham Lock to look rather odd.
Is it possible to correct this without deleting and re-creating Frodsham Cut?
https://canalplan.org.uk/place/lu0o
Unfortunately I chose the directions arbitrarily, and the mismatch causes the Tube-style route map at Frodsham Lock to look rather odd.
Is it possible to correct this without deleting and re-creating Frodsham Cut?
#57
General Chat / Rating moorings
Last post by Stephen Atty - Sep 20, 2024, 06:35 PMI think those probably are close enough - again everyone will have their own interpretation of what they are. If I saw Excellent I'd expect a solid side with rings etc and a good surface to the path
#58
General Chat / Rating moorings
Last post by Chris Newson - Sep 20, 2024, 01:31 PMHi
Thanks for program use every time we have a canal holiday.
I was going to try and rate some moorings but there is no rubric to describe what each category means. Is the following roughly what is intended?
Impossible is obvious
Tolerable - large gap to towpath needing plank
OK - can moor alongside but on bottom: any method or mooring.
Good - moor alongside and good holding for spikes
Excellent - alongside and rings/Armco for brackets etc.
Chris
Thanks for program use every time we have a canal holiday.
I was going to try and rate some moorings but there is no rubric to describe what each category means. Is the following roughly what is intended?
Impossible is obvious
Tolerable - large gap to towpath needing plank
OK - can moor alongside but on bottom: any method or mooring.
Good - moor alongside and good holding for spikes
Excellent - alongside and rings/Armco for brackets etc.
Chris
#59
New Features in CanalPlan / Pipe Bridges
Last post by Shultzy - Sep 18, 2024, 06:31 PMIf any of these pipe bridges have been demolished, have become a danger to navigation or are newly built please let me know and I will update our records.
#60
New Features in CanalPlan / Pipe Bridges
Last post by Andy - Sep 18, 2024, 12:23 PMHi Stephen / Shultzy
Thanks for extracting and providing the pipe bridge data. We have now processed and presented it to members of the group to all them review against their datasets and pick up any unprotected assets for prioritisation and protection from 3rd party access.
Thanks
Andy
Thanks for extracting and providing the pipe bridge data. We have now processed and presented it to members of the group to all them review against their datasets and pick up any unprotected assets for prioritisation and protection from 3rd party access.
Thanks
Andy